Development of a new game has already begun. In the spirit of an arcade game. Something about Galaga, I think. There will be flies. As the main theme. And the visual design is Windows 3.11. That is, a...

I'm continuing and finishing the thread with my own engine. It's for a game in the Free Basic programming language, using various libraries to suit my needs. This includes MP3 audio, PNG graphics, and...

What a spider. Such a little friend. I remembered another game of mine in BASIC. The one that started the movement about friendly little animals. And games in BASIC. KB64. I wrote the game back then w...

Crest and Shooting Mod X. This is the very first modification. This game opens the modifications section. The mods folder has been created. This game and other modifications should be found in the mod...

Basic Pascal version 1.21 "Sand Road" – little sun! Spring is just around the corner. Sunshine. And it's time for a new version of the Basic Pascal set. The keyword for this release is "Sand Road."...

Another game. And a modification. The second modification. These are Pascal games. And about fish. An arcade game about fish. They swim in water and avoid rocks. Rectangles. Small levels, 10 seconds,...

The very first mod. A modification. For a simple game from 2023. A turn-based game. You control a small group of soldiers. Who are in trenches. Or near tank crosses. And they shoot in the opposite dir...

An arcade game. It runs on MS-DOS, with 64 colors and a 320x240 screen resolution. It's something like Galixanar or Space Invaders. You move left and right with the arrow keys. And you shoot with the...

It's a simple shooter. Like retro games. Like Space Invaders or Galaga. You move left and right and shoot. Two lines of enemies. They're at the top. And a menu at the bottom. A fantastic underwater, s...

New development. Now we have a road. A straight road. And cars drawn in the 256 colors of the MS-DOS palette. Both the road and the asphalt. I've always liked this kind of graphics too. Maybe because...

The time has come for a new version of the set. This means a certain number of games have accumulated, and it's time to release them in a new version. There are four new games here. Three of them are...

The frog is green and cheerful. A big fan of swimming. He can swim anywhere. In a river, in a lake. Anywhere with a lot of water. The frog is green. With big feet. Eyes on top. It's comfortable to swi...

Lagushka (frog) – it is such a small green creature. It lives in a grass and likes water. So, this way, lots of us imagine frog. And this little game is exactly about most green creature in a world...

Lagushka (frog) – this is funny green creature. It can jump. And do quack! And do croak! And, also, it can swim very good! This summer was cold. And, even more - full of rains. It is best thing for...

Lagushka. Frog. Funny green creature. He can swim in a water. And sit in a grass. This is frog. Why not to make a game about a frog? This is excellent little animal. So green. And funny. So, she is sw...

Basic Pascal version 1.19 will be remembered as along version. Like a long year. Or long night. As a long winter. And, so, version is released. It is so long because of it is contains several plans. S...

I have returned to the Turbo Pascal 7.0. Almost. This is programming language Free Pascal. And it is already something third way. From my past. A thing I dream about. Some of a picture inside my head...

Version 1.19 is a big and difference. So inside of it - there are several plans. Today it is about plan – little ball. Such a small and funny name. And not as a nothing, it has some meaning. So, the...

Imagine that you are sailing along the river. Or with a sea. With a steamship. So, it has a tubes. And it is everything looks so square kind. Exotic. And water is blue. And steamship is white. Beautif...

I have returned to programming with programming language Turbo Pascal. With a form of Free Pascal. And I do not take into account some things. Well, I try to say with Basic it was more comfortable. So...

Summer little days. It is time to run for a virtual fishing. Take a fishing road! And let’s catch a virtual fish! With the idea not to harm a real pond and a real fish! Let it swim. So, this is here...

We are continue to celebrate release of version Basic pascal 1.10 “Frozen”. Most long development. And it consists with several plans. So, first plan. It is plan Linear. It is a games written with...

While it is summer. And it is warm weather. And it is going a joyful days. It is best time to go for a fishing! And best of all – about virtual fishing. To not to catch a real fish. Let it live and...

Every long winter comes to an end. Freezing process is also going to its end. And starting process defrosting. This is funny! And so long version 1.19 at its final. So, it is time to show this version...

Small game. About collecting columns. You need make a situation – to have all columns with their own color. To help here - it is additional buffer with 1 cube. Game with colors. Game is small. And c...

Most long running project reach its final. Freezing is completed. Well, it should to be. Unfreezing. Today it is a summer at the street! This is text quest with turn based walk along labyrinth with vi...

All story is written with files. And it is approximately, that game is going to end phase of development. It is almost about a level – try to check how it all works. Story has a different sides. Suc...

So story is finished already. Next, you will go along the frozen station already. Everywhere it is snow. It is wind blowing. Sometimes earthquake. And everything is destroyed. There is no roof. And bl...

So writing a storyline it is already about a final phase. Now, main hero is trying to crawl through the station> And he is searching for data. Which can be useful for him. To have deal with monsters...

Well, let me say, that for last two years (2024-2025) this is my biggest development. So it was here lots of tasks, and I was not prepared for them before. As for example, that with shooter games play...

Main part with programming is done. Everything done. Labyrinth works. It functions well. Everything is with code. And all buttons are possible to use. Menu done. About programming it is left for error...

I continue do menu. It will be valuable part of the game. And it is ready function open door. Labyrinth is consist with corridors and rooms. And when you are in corridor, you can see doors. You need o...

Game menu – it will be very valuable part of the game. When you walk the labyrinth. As a rule not big one. This is not action. And more like quest. You walk with arrows. And use minimap. At the bott...

I want to speak a little about things, that are connected with Basic Pascal. This is some game pack. Games, written with Basic, mainly. I am doing everything by the plan. And as a rule plan is not big...

Somewhere in the snow. And ice. Whole continent is covered with snow. Where blizzards and hurricanes with the snow. There is station science. And something has happened there. You are most real person...

This time, frozen arctic station with labyrinth. Something like pseudo three dimensional. And so you already can walk here. View from the eyes. And all labyrinth consists with components. So this is n...

And it was several years in the past, I have this idea for this videogame. With a form of little picture. With white lines it is drawn a labyrinth. And you walk it as with the cells. And you have mach...

Summer time. Best time in the year. So, for this time, Basic Pascal version with number 1.18 is dedicated to theme summer. And funny things. To road to countryside. Duckling and chicken. And, there is...

Adventure. With Qb64. With retro style. Special for this purpose all graphic style is made with blue background. And white color. White color – it is drawing with lines. And text. Color of freeze. S...

Game about different colors. You need to collect/build columns with colors. Fill every column with its own color. Control with keyboard. Arrows and space. And, also, there is a buffer. It is additiona...

Square form chickens running and circle form one too Look, how joyful ducklings are running! They, also, know how to jump. Joyful duckling. And chicken. Chickens should to be here. They are similar. C...

Text quest. About shore. Imagine for yourself, that you are suddenly, appeared at the island. Sand. Around you - it is a sand. As a beach. And sand line along the shore. To the far. It is so a summer...

Space ships. Ufo sausages. These things are my favorite theme. Theme for my fantasies. And, fantastic solutions. As example, it is computer game Vi Aliens. It is vertical shooter. About space. And, he...

Mysterious story. Text quest. You find yourself at the shore. This is island. From one side - it is ocean. Blue sea. And, from other side – it is forest. And, you are walking the sand beach. Read te...

I want a little to speak about numbers. I have drawn 70 types of space bugs, space ships and Ufo Sausages. Total. They are something like types of enemies in videogame Free Linear Space. As a common t...

Game is like Amazing Maze. It is arcade game. About walk the ball in maze. You are walking in the labyrinth and search the exit from it. Game, as a rule, with simple visual decoration. And, it is such...

Little game about little fantastic cubes. You are aiming and as in bowling try to hit little cubes at the other side of the screen. Pseudo three dimensional effect. Size of your little cube is going l...

This is attempt to make my own variation, clone, as I can say for videogame Amazing Maze. It is very ancient videogame. Something about first videogames category. As Space Invaders. Or Galaga. But, ev...

Fantastic with the spirit of retro 80s computers game about how to throw little square in a wall. And, you, just imagine, after this, you get scores! So, that’s cool! And, by the way, it is, also, a...

Short video, you can watch new games here, that were developed for this version Basic Pascal pack. Fragments of gameplay and drawings. Version 1.18 has a name “Duckling”. And it is dedicated to du...

[ PreShow ] Walkthrough game Vi Aliens. It is space shooter. About aliens. They have such a white space ships. It is part of visual design. They are - Vi. They call themselves like this. It is everyth...

About this game, it is about a little ball that knock down platforms, there are some new features. To have all the things looks some new way. And more interesting. And, also, it is taking into account...

This is arcade game, very retro. About a ball and rectangles. Which are colorful, add this point too. And you shoot at them, something like this. And get a score after this. So, here it is everything...

4 more games new for collection., 4 new games Quaсk-quaсkie things! Two games about a duckling and two about a countryside. So, a summer theme. Such a thematical issue for this time. So that’s why...

This time it is, already, prerelease version. It is 10 levels. About 70 seconds length. And 4 bosses and 1 megaboss. So, this means, that after some levels, it will be a boss. So, I add intros. Before...

This is space shooter about aliens with top-down view. You, simply, fly, rather, fast. And shoot with laser. So, for this time, it is about more fast dynamics. And everything is so white here about vi...

It is vertical space shooter. About aliens. Based on science fiction tv-series. Such as Visitors 80s years. So, I am, personally, a fan of style 80s. Vhs tapes. For example. Space shooters – rather...

Space shooter with vertical format. You and aliens. You and space ships. Space. Movement becomes faster than last game – Free Linear Space. New graphics. And, main thing, here - everything looks ano...

Space vertical shooter. About bugs and space. So, in space not only Ufo sausages are flying, but, also, a bugs too. 8 levels. Something about, approximately, one minute long or minute and a half long...

Funny little bee is doing her things. And, all around – it is so good little day. So good day is today. And, little sun is shining. And, little bee is smiling. And, sky is so blue. And, so, fruits a...

Medium tempo vertical shooter. With fast tempo - it is going ahead one more title some other time! And, medium tempo, according my terms. You are flying with something. And you can to select from appr...

You are flying in cosmos space. Cosmos - it is space. Space. Environment. But, it is not like planet Earth. So, light lines are flying near you. You can suggest, that you go with a big speed. Light li...

Space shooter with vertical orientation. As a simple 8 bit, something like with Nes or 8 bit computers. Like MSX, for example. Before your eyes - a black space. Space tunnel. And, you are flying in it...

It is two dimensional runner, where you need, all the time, to press space button. And duckling is jumping! He jumps over pillars and another small ducklings. All little ducklings are running somewher...

Little game, where duckling runs across the field. It has a side view. And he needs to jump over the obstacles. Little ducklings and pillars. You need to help him with this. And, in certain time, to p...

For me, 16 colors make a reference with Basic and age of Ms Dos. So, these kind of games, they were there. From the very start age of Ms Dos. As Tetris, even, this thing is like something like a Tetri...

Countryside and summer – what can be better for weekend? So, the same about a main hero of this videogame, he thinks the same! He is going to the countryside. He collects all his things, pack things...

More drawing (arts) about case of release Basic Pascal version 1.17. So, there, exactly, it is place for a game Cabin Pilot. It is a shooter game. With a storyline like action movie. So, here, there i...

Summer. Such a good time. Sun. Excellent weather. There are lots of green around. Grass. And trees. There are lots of beautiful flowers. It is very beautiful and super positive time of the year! Espec...

Platform Ball – it is a game about a throwing a little ball in wall. Such a funny things to do. Style of full retro. So, it is like, it is from style of computers 80s. Approximately. So, everything...

Quest about a countryside. Small. Game with pictures. Search for items. About theme – summer and country house. You are going to countryside! To have a weekend! In your weekend! There is a summer an...

It is full of joy summer all around! And funny joyful duckling is having fun about every summer day he has! So, little raining is over and it is ok to run into the field again. Field can be so differe...

Game is about joyful duckling, which is running across the field. So, big and yellow duckling, which runs by the field. It shakes with little wings. And, one thing, he does not doing here - it is jump...

Game is about a courtside and summer! You are going for a walk at the countryside. After the little raining. Lots of puddles. And you need to bypass them. Screen is moving by itself. And you are free...

31 October 2024 year, it is, again, to happen a little celebration! Yesterday, just yesterday, it was a Halloween. And, it is nice to watch a horror movie. Such a celebration to remember about a vhs c...

Free Bee – Bzzzz! Here we have a summer here! And fruits! It is simple and funny game with side view about a little bee. Which is just fly forward. And, you collect flying across you, fruits. And av...

It is going on a development of videogame about a bee. Funny, good and kind little game. It is programming with programming language Free Basic and editor GVim. In this game everything is rather simpl...

With programming language Free Basic I am going to finish with game FreeBlocker. I write it with programming language Free Basic. That’s why, it has this name. And game is about little squares. And...

Game is aboult a flight with a space fighter with style of 8 bit computers. Something like BBC Micro, Spectrum, Electronika, MSX, Korvet, Okean, Sintez, PC Vesta. With style of those computers, that w...

It is still in development a little videogame Cabin Pilot. It is programming with new for me dialect of Basic – BBC Basic for SDL 2.0. Basic it is very interesting! It has a good manual. That’s he...

Shooter, view from a cabin. You are flying with a space ship. And shoot with a laser. You are flying across different planets. They are different with background. And you are a with a space avenger. V...

Congratulations! Little positive funny moment! Second plan about to programming new games with Basic is done. Plan has a name TRIA! And this is after the title of the first game in this plan. Total -...

Little simple little game about rectangle and a little circle. You move a platform to the left and to the right. And you can to throw a circle from a platform. You are green. And circle is flying and...

And, by now, I have finished a development for videogame Planet UFO - at the planet of the UFO. Game - it is a number four in game plan TRIA. And, with this game, I close my plan of development. So, s...

At last a game about UFO sausage itself. By the way, you are flying at the planet, where these UFO are living. Planet is fantastic. Surface of the planet is pink and green. And it is creating an objec...

This is a videogame with Basic about how you fly with UFO sausage. You are at the planet of the UFO. And you fly across this planet. It is so strange everything there. It is like science fiction. Now,...

I am a big fan of UFO sausages. They are such round and so interesting. And this is certain about UFO sausage. For this time, you are – it is a UFO sausage. Such round. And you are flying. Just like...

Voidtrix – UFO sausages are approaching Voidtrix – one more black and white shooter with theme of space. For this time, it is that certain simple space shooter, which I try to make from the beginn...

Space Kovsh – attracting science data Space Kovsh – It is one more game with retro style. 2 colors. Simple game process. 4 levels. For this time you have a science mission. And as a game base it h...

Tria – Pseudo 3d space fighter Tria – simple space shooter. Idea of the game – it is a simple space shooter. Pseudo three dimensional. And everything is made with black and white visual. With wh...

Tria – Developer`s log – balance in space Hello! Developer`s log. About game Tria. Tria – it is a simple space shooter. It is doing with programming language QB64. And game is still in developme...

It is a celebration event. New version pack with computer games Basic Pascal! Whole three new games it has! 25 June 2024 it was an event. It was released a new version of pack with computers games, wh...

It is just started a development of a new game. With Basic. It is a space shooter. Just like pseudo three dimensional. I dream always about to make a simple space shooter. Pair of enemies. Simple back...

Uzhik – it is a small game about, a garden, and it is a small little grass snake is crawling there. It is such little small snake. He is good and kind. He is funny. And he is crawling along the sand...

Koloratura – new game, which will be in update for Basic Pascal Pack. It is about different colors. You are playing as a small square, which has its own color. And you are making a moves along the g...

And game about a little penguin has a plot, storyline. Totally it has 8 levels and between them you will have a little story. And everything starts next way. Penguin is living a land of snow. It is a...

It is in development now a game about a penguin. Penguin and a village of smiles. Or those, who makes smiles. Smile little humans. So, they are so round circle little humans, which are smiling. Game i...

Version 1.4 Basic Pascal pack suggests 2 new games. They are 1) Rifles and Trenches and 2) Crossfire at the Bridge. Two games are written with programming language QB64. QB64 – it is modern version...

Crossfire at the bridge It is small videogame. You have several soldiers. And your aim – is to cross a bridge. At the opposite side of the bridge – it is enemy. And you need to take a part in a cr...

Small game. You have several soldiers and you are in a trenches. Your task is not to pass enemy. So, you will need to survive. There will be several waves of enemies attack. Your soldiers have a one a...

Crossfire at the bridge – text action movie developer`s log It is in development videogame Crossfire at the Bridge. One more small game, written with QB64. Modern version of QBasic. Videogame is mad...

Card game 1 - strategy for win And about a win strategy – it is, mainly, more - it is not exist, and less - it is exist. I do not try, now, to suggest something strong logical or turns with math in...

Card Game 1 - how to lose? It is so unusual title for the article. And because of nobody likes to lose. But, anyway, such a question for a fool – anyway, how to lose? And you don’t believe, there...

Curse of Sands - walkthrough Curse of Sands – text adventure about mystery of ancient Egypt. In a country of forever sand. In endless desert. You have found unknown before pyramid. You have seen it...

Rifles and Trenches – Developer`s log – video 1 “New interface, machinegun and radio” You are in a trench. You have 8 soldiers. And you are fire back from several waves of enemies. You have no...

Developer`s log So, about development. Now, about QBasic development. QB64. In terms of package Basic Pascal games. It is already done a videogame Rifles and Trenches. It is a game like next idea from...

First programable day in 2024 year. I select a certain QB64. Modern version of QBasic. And I go back to a project with title Rifles and Trenches. So, I start a project in late 2023. And as a base I ta...

Basic and Pascal Art Basic and Pascal – are definitely rather big event in a world of programming. There are lots of things in there. For example, Free Pascal, Pascal ABC, QB64. It is what about mod...

BP Launcher – it is shell for launching program. And comfortable navigation through files. It is program, written after inspiration from early versions of Norton Commander, Volkov Commander, Dos Nav...

Card Game 1 Simple card game. With element of random. Here works everything based on random. It is a game of random, I can say. For free time. Or fun. It is not a serious game, in any way. It has ente...

Retro role-playing game about to walk in dungeons. With simple automatic level up. And a big part of storytelling, in a form of text screens between levels. Become a searcher for adventures. And colle...

It is small text story. With choice. Choice is affecting the story. Mystical story. About nightmares. Main hero is being hunted by the same nightmare every time. And visions of hell. Black bridge –...

Treasure saga Retro role-playing game about to walk in dungeons. With simple automatic level up. And a big part of storytelling, in a form of text screens between levels. Become a searcher for adventu...

Simple card game. With element of random. Here works everything based on random. It is a game of random, I can say. For free time. Or fun. It is not a serious game, in any way. It has entertainment po...

Treasure Saga Retro role-playing game about to walk in dungeons. With simple automatic level up. And a big part of storytelling, in a form of text screens between levels. Become a searcher for adventu...

Frinsh Walkthrough It is fast game match for free time. Idea of the game is taken from Tic tac toe. But it is not a logic game. Simply, make a line from two your creatures in vertical or horizontal. A...

Fish Arcade Walkthrough It is real time game about fish, which is swims through water. Fish needs to avoid black stones. Fish is living in a depth of water. Not very deep and not in the higher level...

Hello from the fish! You are now at the lake. Underwater. Watching at colorful fish. Pike, Luna fish, just fish. Play with fish for fun and relax! It is very simple game, made in retro programming lan...

Frog is living at the pond. Insect is living at the pond. Fish is living at the pond. Pond - it is a funny place and a home for different creatures. They have their own deals. But, sometimes, they lik...

Game with one game screen, written in QBasic64. Game is schematic. And atmosphere. It is drawn part of war conflict. In a term of local crossfire from a cover. Covers – can be trenches. But, in this...

It is small game, written in retro style. With programming language Qb64. QBasic 64. Game is about theme tier. Tier with shooting at enemies. You are in virtual tier and shoot with schematical rectang...

TierGun trailer And, hello! You are in a tier! In a virtual tier! Relax! Press buttons and aim to target – it is fun! And serious! Game is made in Q Basic 64, with resolution 320 x 200 pixels screen...

TierGun And, hello! You are in a tier! In a virtual tier! Relax! Press buttons and aim to target – it is fun! And serious! Game is made in Q Basic 64, with resolution 320 x 200 pixels screen. Game i...

So, I go back to development of videogame Gala New Year. It is arcade space shooter in space. About space and a New Year. So, New Year here is even more main theme than space. It is kind game. And it...

Game with one game screen, written in QBasic64. Game is schematic. And atmosphere. It is drawn part of war conflict. In a term of local crossfire from a cover. Covers – can be trenches. But, in this...

Crest and shooting – almost done one more game Now, in final phase, there is one more game style Basic Pascal games. It is retro game. One more time. So, I, already have some number of games in cate...

It is fast game match for free time. Idea of the game is taken from Tic tac toe. But it is not a logic game. Simply, make a line from two your creatures in vertical or horizontal. And that’s all. An...

Alice Killer '71 Alice Killer '71 Not fast videogame about shooting at zombies. You are walking the screen and exterminate living dead. Game screen is single. Also, you can collect items, for raising...

FunMan Game is in genre auto runner. Short game with flashing screen. As a retro. You are funny man, funman. Website: http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/funman/index_eng.html GameJolt: https://game...

Now, if final stage, there is one more game with programming language Pascal. Game is written with Free Pascal. And it will go with pack Basic Pascal games. So, Basic Pascal pack already have some gam...

Curse of Sands – text adventure about mystery of ancient Egypt. In a country of forever sand. In endless desert. You have found unknown before pyramid. You have seen it in a dreams. And locals told...

Curse of the sands – too long doing of text Now I stuck with doing a text quest. I write it in programming language Pascal ABC. IT is with Russian language support. There is a version with .NET supp...

Alice Killer '71 Not fast videogame about shooting at zombies. You are walking the screen and exterminate living dead. Game screen is single. Also, you can collect items, for raising game score. Websi...

Game is in genre auto runner. Short game with flashing screen. As a retro. You are funny man, funman. Website: http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/funman/index_eng.html GameJolt: https://gamejolt.co...

FunMan Game is in genre auto runner. Short game with flashing screen. As a retro. You are funny man, funman. Website: http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/funman/index_eng.html GameJolt: https://game...

Fish Arcade It is real time game about fish, which is swims through water. Fish needs to avoid black stones. Fish is living in a depth of water. Not very deep and not in the higher level. Game is in g...

Alice Killer '71 Not fast videogame about shooting at zombies. You are walking the screen and exterminate living dead. Game screen is single. Also, you can collect items, for raising game score. Websi...

FunMan Game is in genre auto runner. Short game with flashing screen. As a retro. You are funny man, funman. Website: http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/funman/index_eng.html GameJolt: https://game...

It is small Text Story. Small TS. And it starts with a hello word from a teller. Idea is coming after watching tv series Creep show. It is a small story. Mystical, thriller. Story is connected with wo...

Hello from the fish! You are now at the lake. Underwater. Watching at colorful fish. Pike, Luna fish, just fish. Play with fish for fun and relax! It is very simple game, made in retro programming lan...

Frog is living at the pond. Insect is living at the pond. Fish is living at the pond. Pond - it is a funny place and a home for different creatures. They have their own deals. But, sometimes, they lik...

Pond – it is a place, where lives kind animals. Fish, frog, insect. Pond – it is whole world. It is a home for kind creatures. And also, it is a cycle of games about kind style. They are made in B...

So, I don’t write anything new about the development. So, I have already made two games written in programming language Free Pascal. It is two more game in my game cycle “Pond”. It is some games...

Not fast videogame about shooting at zombies. You are walking the screen and exterminate living dead. Game screen is single. Also, you can collect items, for raising game score. You are playing for so...

Game is in genre auto runner. Short game with flashing screen. As a retro. You are funny man, funman. And just run from point A to point B. You, as a player, need to push, all the time, space button...

So here you have - game about collecting items. You are playing for spider. He is green. And you need to collect eggs - small colorful circles. http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/spider/index_eng.h...

You are in a blind maze! You find yourself in a labirynth.Absolute dark. Full darkness. You can to feel the way through the process and remember the moves. Or write moves on a sheet of paper and make...

It is simple retro game. It is written in Free Pascal. You need to press button space in time. It is runner game. Game`s page: English: http://www.dimalink.tv-games.ru/games/funman/index_eng.html...

Trailer to game Spider So here you have - game about collecting items. You are playing for spider. He is green. And you need to collect eggs - small colorful circles. Just simple step on them with gre...

Trailer to game Blind Maze You are in a blind maze! You find yourself in a labirynth.Absolute dark. Full darkness. You can to feel the way through the process and remember the moves. Or write moves on...

Basic Pascal – games from first pack First pack with Basic Pascal games. Basic and Pascal – it is programming languages. Retro. They are from 80s, and they exist today. They can be made in differe...